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sake-bento Admin
Posts : 1354 Join date : 2009-12-27
| Subject: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:31 pm | |
| This is for feedback on Yousei. This is a spoiler thread. Marking spoilers is still encouraged, but it's assumed that anyone reading this has either played the game, or is willing to read spoilers. Current Version: 1.0a Updates:-0.8b: Fixed crash with missing naoki_q03 variable. -0.8c: Typo fixes, sprites for final scene in true ending, fixed image glitch in behind biology building exploration -0.9a: Added notes, phone texts, image gallery, director's notes, in-game extras (Gurski glasses, Li Mei glasses, Phone Charm). -0.9b: Fixed crashing on exploration and Background Gallery 02. -0.91c: Voices and SFX Added -0.91d: Missing voices added, typos fixed. -0.91e: Missing voices added, typos and voice discrepancies fixed, minor update to menu code -1.0a: Full Version Released General Advice:- Spoiler:
-Some of the endings are based on your relationship with your friends. Specifically, siding with the twins or Gurski. If you try to be balanced between them, you won't achieve endings with either. -Telling the truth builds trust, and lying lowers it. Building trust with certain characters will help you achieve your mission. -Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
Walkthrough:Available Next Week Fixes:There are currently no bug fixes available. If you have the beta version and there are problems running it, please re-download the game. I've set the links to not expire, but some of them have anyway. If you have an expired link, email me at ayu@sakevisual.com with the email address you purchased the game with, and I will send you a new download link.
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| | | BonBonBunny
Posts : 2 Join date : 2012-11-24
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:06 am | |
| Hello! I am sadly not a participant in the beta testing, but I thought I'd give feedback on this promotional image after something in it caught my attention... ... How many fingers does Aki have? D: | |
| | | Evarise
Posts : 7 Join date : 2012-07-17 Age : 27 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:06 pm | |
| Seems like I've got a bug. When talking to everyone for their alibis and motives, an error happens when I try talking to Naoki. Seems like this is preventing me from going on with the story. Here's the traceback: - Spoiler:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code: File "game/naoki.rpy", line 16, in script File "game/naoki.rpy", line 185, in python NameError: name 'naoki_q03' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback: File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\execution.py", line 265, in run File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\ast.py", line 1205, in execute File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\exports.py", line 430, in menu File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\python.py", line 1009, in py_eval File "game/naoki.rpy", line 185, in <module> NameError: name 'naoki_q03' is not defined
Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1 Ren'Py 6.13.12.1728 Yousei: The Third Investigation 0.8a
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| | | sake-bento Admin
Posts : 1354 Join date : 2009-12-27
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:22 pm | |
| - Evarise wrote:
- Seems like I've got a bug. When talking to everyone for their alibis and motives, an error happens when I try talking to Naoki. Seems like this is preventing me from going on with the story. Here's the traceback:
- Spoiler:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code: File "game/naoki.rpy", line 16, in script File "game/naoki.rpy", line 185, in python NameError: name 'naoki_q03' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback: File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\execution.py", line 265, in run File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\ast.py", line 1205, in execute File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\exports.py", line 430, in menu File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Yousei Beta\renpy\python.py", line 1009, in py_eval File "game/naoki.rpy", line 185, in <module> NameError: name 'naoki_q03' is not defined
Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1 Ren'Py 6.13.12.1728 Yousei: The Third Investigation 0.8a
Patch uploaded here: Edit: Please don't download this patch. This is a fix for a VERY OLD version of Yousei. If you have a newer version, this will break your game. If you have the old beta, simply use the download link in your confirmation email to get the current version.
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| | | sake-bento Admin
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| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:28 pm | |
| - BonBonBunny wrote:
- Hello! I am sadly not a participant in the beta testing, but I thought I'd give feedback on this promotional image after something in it caught my attention...
... How many fingers does Aki have? D: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/319664370/2683591027 I think this is it? | |
| | | MoMogindorobo
Posts : 4 Join date : 2012-11-24
| Subject: Re: Re: Yousei Pre-order Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:22 pm | |
| I'm a mac user and I am experiencing the same error message... what are the exact steps I should follow? I have a 10.5 mac os x. could that be why downloading the upload didn't work? | |
| | | sake-bento Admin
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| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:38 pm | |
| - MoMogindorobo wrote:
- I'm a mac user and I am experiencing the same error message... what are the exact steps I should follow? I have a 10.5 mac os x. could that be why downloading the upload didn't work?
When you download the game, unzip the entire thing into a folder of your choice. You will see a collection of files and folders. One of the folders will be named "game." Files in there will have names like "aki.rpyc." Put the patch in thqt folder. You could also try redownloading the game from your email, as I have updated the server with a fixed file. | |
| | | MoMogindorobo
Posts : 4 Join date : 2012-11-24
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:12 pm | |
| - sake-bento wrote:
- MoMogindorobo wrote:
- I'm a mac user and I am experiencing the same error message... what are the exact steps I should follow? I have a 10.5 mac os x. could that be why downloading the upload didn't work?
When you download the game, unzip the entire thing into a folder of your choice. You will see a collection of files and folders. One of the folders will be named "game." Files in there will have names like "aki.rpyc." Put the patch in thqt folder. You could also try redownloading the game from your email, as I have updated the server with a fixed file. so I tried re-downloading the file, the folder "game" did not appear. I found it in the 0.1b-all beta, but not the 0.8a [PRE-ORDER BETA]. What did appear when I unzipped the field to archive was a folder "youseibeta-mac" which had: log.txt , README.html , and youseibeta application. Once again... could it be because of my out dated computer? because the problem is still unexplainable | |
| | | sake-bento Admin
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| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:02 pm | |
| Hm, the version on the server right now SHOULD be 08.b, not 0.8a. I'm going to resend the download link, just in case. | |
| | | MoMogindorobo
Posts : 4 Join date : 2012-11-24
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:25 pm | |
| - sake-bento wrote:
- Hm, the version on the server right now SHOULD be 08.b, not 0.8a. I'm going to resend the download link, just in case.
Wow, yea that would explain my troubles... Thank you. But I already ordered it for 0.8a, how am I assured the right version? and that was today so 0.8b should have been up right? | |
| | | KittyKatStar
Posts : 23 Join date : 2012-06-20
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:31 pm | |
| Been playing the beta for a few hours, there's some typos/grammar errors I've found. Marked spoilers just in case. ^^v Little on the tired side, so for all I know I added *errors* to sentences that are correct. =,) I found no traceback errors (but I did add that patch), but I'll keep messing around with more choices. >.>b - Spoiler:
"Her eyes briefly flick towards the mirror set into the wall. Right" No period at the end of 'Right'.
"Lie Mei halts in her tracks tilts her head to the side." Could add 'and', comma, etc, to fix it up a bit.
"The rabbit turns to her, and it's nose twitches." "its" "Mirror it's actions" "its"
"Has Dr. Johnansen been acting strangely lately." Makes it sound like he's still alive during the questioning.
"And then… Aaron lead the way up the stairs." Led sound better..?
"And what are the odds you're going to hit the head a moving target with a gun, anyway?" "hit the head of a moving target"
"Nathan flits among the students at his table, pausing once in a while to offer and exasperated sigh." "an exasperated"
"You want to help to much? Get back to work on this case." "You want to help so much?"
When you ask David "Soo… You and Chance used to date?" It cuts straight into David's response. Kangai normally speaks it first.
"Aaron looks down and fiddles with the settins on his camera." "Settings"
"The four is us hurry to the lab and Aki grabs the laptop sitting on the counter." "The four of us."
I *think* I got to one of the endings. Probably the most bad ending with how amazing I am with my detective skills. =,) Poor twins. ;_;
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| | | sake-bento Admin
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| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:33 pm | |
| - MoMogindorobo wrote:
- sake-bento wrote:
- Hm, the version on the server right now SHOULD be 08.b, not 0.8a. I'm going to resend the download link, just in case.
Wow, yea that would explain my troubles... Thank you. But I already ordered it for 0.8a, how am I assured the right version? and that was today so 0.8b should have been up right? Well, supposedly the server updates with the new version every time I upload it, so in theory re-downloading it from the link in your email will give you the latest version. I'm uploading the 0.8b Mac right now just in case, and then I'll have BMTMicro generate a new download link for you. That should probably take care of it. - KittyKatStar wrote:
- Spoiler:
I *think* I got to one of the endings. Probably the most bad ending with how amazing I am with my detective skills. =,) Poor twins. ;_;
- Spoiler:
That's actually one of the harder endings to attain, I think, since you have to be on good terms with a lot of characters to make it happen. I'd say congrats, but considering the nature of the ending, it's not really cause for celebration. >.>
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| | | MoMogindorobo
Posts : 4 Join date : 2012-11-24
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:40 pm | |
| - sake-bento wrote:
- MoMogindorobo wrote:
- sake-bento wrote:
- Hm, the version on the server right now SHOULD be 08.b, not 0.8a. I'm going to resend the download link, just in case.
Wow, yea that would explain my troubles... Thank you. But I already ordered it for 0.8a, how am I assured the right version? and that was today so 0.8b should have been up right? Well, supposedly the server updates with the new version every time I upload it, so in theory re-downloading it from the link in your email will give you the latest version. I'm uploading the 0.8b Mac right now just in case, and then I'll have BMTMicro generate a new download link for you. That should probably take care of it.
- KittyKatStar wrote:
- Spoiler:
I *think* I got to one of the endings. Probably the most bad ending with how amazing I am with my detective skills. =,) Poor twins. ;_;
- Spoiler:
That's actually one of the harder endings to attain, I think, since you have to be on good terms with a lot of characters to make it happen. I'd say congrats, but considering the nature of the ending, it's not really cause for celebration. >.>
thank you kindly | |
| | | sake-bento Admin
Posts : 1354 Join date : 2009-12-27
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:46 pm | |
| Email sent. If it still doesn't work, try starting a new game (you can text skip through the first part). Old save files might not have the missing variable. | |
| | | Thelo
Posts : 8 Join date : 2011-02-07
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:18 pm | |
| Here are some more typos I found: - Spoiler:
Hello! You're currently playing the the beta version of Yousei. (the the)
Resting. Aaron's in his bed. Naoki's in the other one. We figured you'd like a proper place to rest other than the floor. (Naoki -> Kizaki? They just mentioned how they should use the fake names since Aaron is around.)
Like making sure all the rabbit's cages are locked properly. (rabbits' cages)
Li Mei casts a final longing glace at the rabbit before following me out of the lab. (glance)
Chance nods enthuisiastically. (enthusiastically)
Yeah, Auten's an alumus of U of E. (alumnus)
Gurksi sounds amused. (Gurski)
Sounds like you've got some experience in that arena. (area)
In the case of a zombie apolocalypse. (apocalypse)
All that pent of rage of his had to go somewhere... (pent up)
Ellipsis spacing is generally consistent to "no spaces after an ellipsis": "Oh! Um...I guess so." but there is one spot where there is a space afterwards: "Oh, um... I was born in Edgewater." Incidentally, I think putting a space after an ellipsis looks better.
- The Save / Load screen doesn't respond to the mousewheel, which would be quite convenient.
- The biology building's back door has corrupted graphics for the lamp, door and keypad when in Examine mode.
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| | | Thelo
Posts : 8 Join date : 2011-02-07
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:21 pm | |
| I wonder what are the endings? I've found two so far, but I certainly wouldn't describe them as "good". | |
| | | KittyKatStar
Posts : 23 Join date : 2012-06-20
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:30 pm | |
| Found two endings now. And some small typos. Major spoilers in the next mark, so click with caution everyone. >.>b - Spoiler:
Lol when the "Who is the killer" solution happened with the giant list of suspects I'm like "OH COME ON" OTZ (But I got it right the first time, no way o.o )
(I think it was in the uh ;_; Kangai ending )
"Sorry. Wish I could be more help." "Wish I could be of more help."
"He didn't deserve it to have it!" "He didn't deserve to have it!"
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| | | sake-bento Admin
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| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:52 pm | |
| - Spoiler:
There are two depressing endings, one creepy one, and the true end in which they catch the killer, make friends, and then leave a door open for the next game. I won't give details beyond the hints in the first post, just to be sure I didn't make the true end too hard to achieve.
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| | | Thelo
Posts : 8 Join date : 2011-02-07
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:07 pm | |
| I have to say I'm loving Gurski in this one. Just the right balance of wit and mystery. | |
| | | KittyKatStar
Posts : 23 Join date : 2012-06-20
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:29 pm | |
| Yaaay saw all four endings~ Last batch of typos from me.Again no errors, etc, and I'm using the Mac version. Also haven't seen any gameplayish issues. - Spoiler:
I liked the one I found now better, much better.
"Let's start with what you two telling me why you're trying to steal my stuff." "Let's start with you two telling me."
"I chase after him, but he quicky outpaces me." "quickly"
"He rolls on the ground and quicky springs back to his feet." "quickly"
"Nathan pratically spits the words at her." "practically"
"Li Mei knowingly places her hand on mine and smiles reassurringly." "reassuringly"
YAY RABBIT <3
And the balance was great, and this is coming from someone who is all OTZ with detective work.
I look forward to the next game, I enjoyed the hints. ^^
The Nathan is dead route:
"My thought it cut off by my phone ringing." "My thought is cut off."
"I glance at Detctive Gurski, but he doesn't seem concerned by her touching it." "Detective."
And I agree with Thelo. Totally loved Gurski in this one. <3 If I find anything else I'll just add it to this post (typos).
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| | | Evarise
Posts : 7 Join date : 2012-07-17 Age : 27 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:08 am | |
| Played all yesterday afternoon, and managed to find three endings - two very depressing ones (and need to admit I cried - a lot, to be honest), and then one which I'm guessing might be the true one? (No one dies, we catch the killer, keep the rabbit (aww~), and seemingly get some hints about where the 4th game is going to happen - Yamazaki Ryokan?) But I'm not sure if this is actually the true ending, because I thought it would only be unlocked after gettin all the other three. But if it indeed is, it wasn't that hard to achieve at all, so I guess the game is well balanced. I suppose then the only one that still remains for me is the creepy ending. Will try to get it today. | |
| | | sake-bento Admin
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| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:30 am | |
| Yup, that's the true end. There were a lot of people who didn't like having to unlock the true end in Kansei, so I went without this time.I'm glad the sad endings were sad. Deji spent a lot of time on them, and Marc wrote special tracks for each of them. | |
| | | Thelo
Posts : 8 Join date : 2011-02-07
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:55 pm | |
| Got the true end! The writing is delicious as always. One thing I must say though, it might be a "feature of the genre" of VNs, but it did feel pretty arbitrary which ending my actions would end up with. The only tool that let me bump into the various ends was just going brute-force and trying everything, and I didn't feel like there was much of a meaningful link between my choices and their outcome. | |
| | | sake-bento Admin
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| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:19 pm | |
| Woo! Glad you got it. ^o^ Will explain logic under spoiler. Endings are all laid out here, so...definite spoilers. - Spoiler:
For all the games in the Jisei series, each of the characters has a hidden friendship value which increases whenever you tell them the truth about something (Or otherwise do them a favor, like asking Aaron to stop taking pictures to make Naoki happer). Getting high friendship values with the murderer usually leads to them knowing too much and escaping. Getting high friendship values with everyone else usually leads to good endings or extra information about the main story.
For the twins' ending, that requires high friendship values with Aki+Naoki, and Jupiter. With a high Aki+Naoki value, Aki will offer to come along to see Jupiter, and Kangai will say yes. If you have a low friendship value with them, Kan will actually turn them down. Then if you have a high friendship value with Jupiter, she'll volunteer extra information about Johansen's secret project, which leads to that ending. Low trust value means the story goes on and everyone goes to see David.
For the ending with Nathan's untimely demise, that requires a high friendship value with Gurski (which you can't achieve alongside a high friendship value with the twins). Shawn will suggest that Kan go get help, and if Kan likes Gurski enough, he'll agree. This gives Shawn and Chance enough time to race over to the lab themselves and kill Nathan.
If you don't have a high friendship value with Gurski, Kangai will turn down Shawn's suggestion, leading to Kangai's untimely end. In this case, Shawn only has enough time to call Nathan and warn him, rather than dispose of him.
And the true ending is based on getting as close to Chance as possible so that she'll be present when you confront Nathan.
Increasing the friendship values of things is usually straightforward - lie and it goes down, tell the truth and it goes up. Some of them make you pick between characters (usually Gurski and Aki). I think there are a few choices where the outcome is not immediately clear. When you try to defend yourself after first meeting Jupiter+Nathan+David, each reaction appeals to a different member. Jupiter prefers the straightforward one, David prefers the joking one, and Nathan prefers the violent one. In general though, endings are based pretty heavily on the relationships you develop.
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| | | KittyKatStar
Posts : 23 Join date : 2012-06-20
| Subject: Re: Yousei Feedback [Spoilers] Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:46 pm | |
| There, saw all four endings. - Spoiler:
Deji's art in the 'creepy' end, whoooa good job. o.o *shudder* Loved the image of Chance. <3 Added any typos in the above post. >.>b I can also see why Kangai would love Susana's cooking. I can't wait to hear the voices just for Nathan's "Hello infection." You should let the player give Kangai the option to take that 15 minute phone survey. XD He'll probably point out that's a stupid idea considering the situation.
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